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Another pedestrian killed on the bypass




With the new season upon us, it might be a good time to remind newcomers how dangerous the bypass can be for pedestrians.


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1:08 a.m. -

"a 20-year-old pedestrian from Williamsburg, Virginia ran eastward into the highway, directly into the path of the Jeep Wrangler."

"The investigation further determined that neither speed nor alcohol were a factor for the driver."


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Ok, they determined the driver was sober. How about the Ped? Also, she "Ran" in front of the car. Was it intentional?

Every Summer we get a few of these Ped accidents. Not always tourists. I remember last Summer a local who was drunk got killed. Long and short, the bypass is a very busy road. Not pedestrian or bike friendly.


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RIP Ashley

I have attached an article reporting Dare County is among the highest in the U.S. for pedestrian fatalities. I was shocked DC compares that high for pedestrian deaths. Sadly it is to be expected. 5 lanes with a speed limit of 45 to 50 mph with many drivers exceeding the speed limit. Little to no speeding enforcement. Few places to safely cross for pedestrians.

Moving the tourists quickly north and south appears to be the #1 priority for Dare County leaders.

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That article is playing a little loosely with those statistics.

"Of the 18 vehicle-related fatalities in Dare County between 2017 and 2021, seven were pedestrians, 38.89%, to rank 13th highest in the country."

That is 7 pedestrian fatalities between 2017 and 2021. The other 11 vehicle-related fatalities were not pedestrians.
The 38% figure is the funny/odd number. And so is the "13th highest in the country"

- data compliments of the "Chair of the OBX Bicycle & Pedestrian Safety Coalition"

A more honest number would be the ranking based on per capita deaths/deaths per 1000 population and/or pedestrian deaths based on traffic count/volume, number of pedestrians per day or mile, etc.

To say there were 18 vehicle related deaths from '17 to '21 and 38% were pedestrians is an odd way of looking at things. Cars have air bags and seat belts and are getting safer and safer. When I was kid in the '50s a drunk hitting a phone pole usually died.
If there had been 7 pedestrian deaths and NO other vehicle/wreck deaths, the percentage would be 100%.
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From some NC law office site: I was googling for the total pedestrian death number for NC per year. 150 to 200.

"Every year, there are approximately 2,200 pedestrian accidents reported in North Carolina, resulting in 500 injuries and between 150 and 200 deaths, according to the UNC Highway Safety Research Center."

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I learned to drive in DC when I was 15.5. Even back then people were getting run over by cars going slow at crowded intersections and cars that were speeding. DC is similar in some ways to the OBX in terms of everybody is in a hurry because what they are doing is IMPORTANT, most of them are from out of town, and the way they learned to drive back home is the proper way.
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Trivia question. What was the original name of the Brooklyn Dodgers professional baseball team?

Answer: "The team's name derived from the reputed skill of Brooklyn residents at evading the city's trolley streetcars. The name is a shortened form of one of their former names, the Brooklyn Trolley Dodgers,"






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I remember in the late 90s a couple of teenagers were killed on the bypass in a car crash.

They lived fairly close to me and I remember billboards for a few years reminding people to slow down and be careful.

Sadly we keep reporting the same thing year after year,



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I remember in the late 90s a couple of teenagers were killed on the bypass in a car crash.

They lived fairly close to me and I remember billboards for a few years reminding people to slow down and be careful.

Sadly we keep reporting the same thing year after year,

Bill

Actually, there were 5 young women that was killed by a DRUNK, loss of license women, at the intersection of 158 and Collington road.
There is a memorial at the NE corner of that intersection, they are renewed annually by someone probably their parent on the NE corner.


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I remember in the late 90s a couple of teenagers were killed on the bypass in a car crash.

They lived fairly close to me and I remember billboards for a few years reminding people to slow down and be careful.

Sadly we keep reporting the same thing year after year,

Bill

Actually, there were 5 young women that was killed by a DRUNK, loss of license women, at the intersection of 158 and Collington road.
There is a memorial at the NE corner of that intersection, they are renewed annually by someone probably their parent on the NE corner.

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If you were here you didn't forget that one. I call it the 5 lanes of death for a reason and the Colington Rd intersection is the most dangerous in the whole OBX.


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If you were here you didn't forget that one. I call it the 5 lanes of death for a reason and the Colington Rd intersection is the most dangerous in the whole OBX.

Tim-OBX


Yes, Collington Road is one of the busiest secondary roads in the state. It is also an entering and exit point for all three public schools in KDH. This intersection deserves all of your attention.


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My parents were good friends with one of the girls that were killed in that tragic accident. Her father was actually one of the first responders to the accident totally unaware that his young daughter was one of the fatalities. The drunk walked away and was only concerned about her dog. I guess she’s still in jail. It wasn’t her first offense.


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My parents were good friends with one of the girls that were killed in that tragic accident. Her father was actually one of the first responders to the accident totally unaware that his young daughter was one of the fatalities. The drunk walked away and was only concerned about her dog. I guess she’s still in jail. It wasn’t her first offense.

LollyGirl


She is still in jail and has been for almost 25 years. She has not completed even half of her sentence yet. Her long sentence was one of the reasons it became a national story. Numerous editorials and members of the clergy criticized the long sentence. There is a still active Facebook page Free Missy Marvin.

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"It wasn’t her first offense."

"Numerous editorials and members of the clergy criticized the long sentence."

Is 15 years for killing someone a long sentence? Is it really?

Of course, she killed 4 people x 15 years.




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"It wasn’t her first offense."

"Numerous editorials and members of the clergy criticized the long sentence."

Is 15 years for killing someone a long sentence? Is it really?

Of course, she killed 4 people x 15 years.

johnbt



I wasn’t criticizing the length of the sentence. I was just pointing out that some people had criticized it.


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Is 15 years for killing someone a long sentence? Is it really?


johnbt


If the question stands alone, the answer is absolutely not.

If the question stands against the context of others charged with similar crimes, the answer isn't so clear. This guy got 10 days.

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She was made an example of. Whether that was right or wrong, or whether there as been any benefit (somebody thinking about this and making a better decision about driving) or not, we probably won't ever know.

Where the system failed her (and us) is when she was allowed to walk from the first two offenses. I'm old enough to remember a time before MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) - if you had enough money, and knew the right lawyer (every region had one,) you could basically buy your way out of a DUI (get it reduced to reckless or similar.) Had there been consequences prior to this tragic event, perhaps it wouldn't have come to this.

Being her age, and here during that time in my life, I can only think "There but for the grace of God, go I."

4916 days sober.

Beech


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"This guy got 10 days."

So because he didn't get enough, everybody shouldn't? Nah, I'm not buying that line of reasoning.


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"or whether there as been any benefit " because the sentence discouraged others from driving drunk, etc.

I don't see that it matters. It would seem to be enough that she hasn't driven drunk again, hasn't had another wreck, and hasn't injured or killed anyone else.


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Thanks for finding that. That is indeed the one I was referencing.

Still very haunting, those girls should all be bringing their own kids to the OBX now.




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I found this, when researching the accident.

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The "Precious Gems Memorial" foundation was started by their parents in their remembrance. All 4 high school girls were ejected from the vehicle and died (none were believed to be wearing seat belts), the 5th person, a boy, was severely injured, but survived. The 30 year old woman who t-boned their car was a habitual DUI offender and received 60 years in prison, and the case served as the catalyst that significantly toughened DUI laws in North Carolina.




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My parents were friends with the Lawlers. A wonderful family. They were from our area. And had recently moved to Colington. I believe 3 of the girls were visiting them from Jersey.
Just unimaginable!
They were coming back from the beach.



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