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A very interesting and insightful article by Heather Frese about Hatteras Island.

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Daddy said don't build/buy on sand. I followed his advice and invested in property 100 miles from the coast. The coast is like playing roulette. You might win big or you might lose it all.


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Daddy said don't build/buy on sand. I followed his advice and invested in property 100 miles from the coast. The coast is like playing roulette. You might win big or you might lose it all.

Greg MD


That's the truth about the coast. It's always been that way, I think. Wasn't Carova covered by the ocean 200 years ago? Shifting sands type scenario.


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Plymouth rock has always been right at the edge of the sea. Hundreds of years later, it is still at the edge of the sea. The ocean is not rising like the climate catastrophe investors want you to believe, the sand is moving like it always has and always will. Sometimes slowly, sometimes all at once.


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I enjoyed the opinion piece.

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It appears the big manmade dunes slowly cause the island to move west.

3,000,000 feet of sand fencing were built to create the dunes along the ocean.

"THE STABILIZATION PROCESS
The frequency of destructive storms along coastal North Carolina,
with accompanying oceanic overwash, precluded the establishment of a
permanent road network until the 1930's. It was determined at that
time to construct a protective dune system between the proposed road
and the beach. In the period between 1936 and 1940, the CCC and WPA,
under the direction of the National Park Service, erected almost
3,000,000 feet of sand fencing to create a continuous barrier dune
along the Outer Banks. This was augmented in the late 1950's by the
National Park Service so that at present almost a continuous mass of
vegetation blankets the barrier island from south Nags Head to the
southern tip of Ocracoke Island. "


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Simple solution would be to invent an engine that runs on sea water. problems solved.


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Plymouth Rock was in fact moved to its present location in 1920, and is quite often covered by very high tides.


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Plymouth Rock was in fact moved to its present location in 1920, and is quite often covered by very high tides.

mleebob


Very interesting! Nice fact! I don't think fossil fuels were around much in the 1920's, so it must have been sand shifting and winds which brought about it being covered with high tides. That would be something cool to research scientifically ! Cool post and thank you for the info!


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I don't think fossil fuels were around much in the 1920's,

Bentmtn


The first fossil fuel was coal, used by the railroads. So we've been burning fossil fuels since the early/mid 1800's.


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But we have been burning wood f-o-r-e-v-e-r....and recent studies show burning wood releases 2.5 time the CO2 emissions.





ecosystems.psu.edu/resear...


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But we have been burning wood f-o-r-e-v-e-r....and recent studies show burning wood releases 2.5 time the CO2 emissions.

lowtide


Yup and CO2 is a greenhouse gas. The level of CO2 is raised in greenhouses by several different means to make the plants grow faster.

Here's something to watch today about the big business of 'climate change'.

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Thank you, Greg



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Gretta said we all be dead in five years , six years ago !


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"When did oil production start in Pennsylvania?
1859
Pennsylvania is the birthplace of commercial oil production, thanks to Colonel Edwin L. Drake. Drake drilled the first well specifically intended to produce oil in Titusville, Pa., in 1859. His success launched a global industry upon which most of our modern lives depend."
____________

"Kerosene fuel is a petroleum product that is produced by separating the compounds which make up crude oil."
___________

"When did kerosene lamps stop being used?
Kerosene lamp - Wikipedia
All unpressurized mantle lamps are based on the Argand lamp that was improved by the Clamond basket mantle. These lamps were popular from 1882 until shortly after WWII, when rural electrification made them obsolete."

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In addition to wood, many places burned peat to heat homes.

"Although peat is not strictly a fossil fuel, its greenhouse gas emissions are comparable to those of fossil fuels..Feb 18, 2024"

"Peatlands themselves form part of the historic landscape and contain evidence of peat cutting, which goes back to the Roman period and continued through the Middle Ages, used as an alternative source of fuel to wood." - Irish Times

"Is burning peat worse than coal?
Peat is the most damaging fuel in terms of global warming; even worse than coal. It has a lower calorific value than coal (generating less energy per tonne when it is burned) and yet it produces higher CO2 emissions per unit, so it is the least climate-efficient way to produce electricity or heat in Ireland bar none.Oct 25, 2018"


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"The enemy is CO2!"

No CO2 = no photosynthesis = no oxygen. Good plan. Thumbs up

"By volume, the dry air in Earth’s atmosphere is about 78.08 percent nitrogen, 20.95 percent oxygen, and 0.93 percent argon.

A brew of trace gases accounts for the other approximately 0.04 percent, including the greenhouse gases carbon dioxide, methane, nitrous oxide and ozone. Yet while these greenhouse gases make up just a tiny percentage of our atmosphere, they play major roles in trapping Earth’s radiant heat and keeping it from escaping into space, thereby warming our planet and contributing to Earth’s greenhouse effect.

The largest greenhouse gas by volume is actually the one most people tend to overlook: water vapor"

And people are buying into this "CO2 is the enemy" BS.



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......It appears the big manmade dunes slowly cause the island to move west.

Thanks for that link. That the best description of the beach situation I have read online and learned a lot. And published back in 1972!

npshistory.com/publicatio...


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But we have been burning wood f-o-r-e-v-e-r....and recent studies show burning wood releases 2.5 time the CO2 emissions.

lowtide


Yah, the first Rail Roads used wood. But I didn't include it because it really isn't a fossil fuel. So you have coal, crude oil and natural gas from the early 1880's. And here we are 200 years later with the Co2 amounts the highest they've been in millions of years.


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Well 'fossil' fuel is really a misnomer. Oil and gas come from single cell organisms compressed into a soup, not dinosaurs. So oil and gas are organic fuels, along with coal too because it came from trees.

Anyhow, the government has urged us to stock up on lots of fuel, water and food because the coming eclipse could be the next catastrophe. I'll get right on that.


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I don't think fossil fuels were around much in the 1920's,

Bentmtn


The first fossil fuel was coal, used by the railroads. So we've been burning fossil fuels since the early/mid 1800's.

KHbiker


Actually, even longer - the Chinese "started" (although there is history that predates) in the 300's

Perhaps the best reading source (oft referred to as the industry Bible) if one really wants to understand the industry and market dynamics is "The Prize" - Daniel Yergin. Click to follow link...

There is even a PBS produced version - here's the link: Click to follow link...






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So you have coal, crude oil and natural gas from the early 1880's. And here we are 200 years later with the Co2 amounts the highest they've been in millions of years.

KHbiker


Yeah... no.

Go to section II. C. (page 8).

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Plymouth Rock has been moved numerous times and proves nothing about sea level. Even "broken, split and relocated several times"

www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2YO1O0/

"Curtin also told Reuters that the Rock has “unquestionably” been moved over the past few centuries, having been broken, split and relocated several times.
For example, the top portion was removed to Town Square in 1774 and later in 1834 to Pilgrim Hall Museum. The two halves of the Rock were reunited on the waterfront under a granite canopy in 1880, Curtin said, and later was entirely excavated and lowered onto the shoreline in 1920 with a new granite portico placed over it in 1921 (here).
Curtin also told Reuters that the Rock is regularly under water with high tide. Reuters found numerous images of such published by media outlets and photographers "


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Let me know when the Statue of Liberty is on her tippy toes.


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Plymouth rock has always been right at the edge of the sea. Hundreds of years later, it is still at the edge of the sea. The ocean is not rising like the climate catastrophe investors want you to believe, the sand is moving like it always has and always will. Sometimes slowly, sometimes all at once.

Greg MD


a simple google search shows this statement to be false.


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Coffee




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Are we discussing sea level rise or climate change or both here?


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