Are you like spinning around in circles in your kitchen with another open bottle of wine repeating the same sh1t over and over again to yourself?? No one and I mean NOONE cares about what you are saying. You come on the board obsessively looking for someone to argue with and everyone is just looking at you like "WTF is wrong with this person". Seriously , you have zero self awareness.

Don't take the bait!

Beach is the one threating and calling people names , sounds like a Middle School bully ! I have posted Wills rules as a reminder !!


The rules are greatly relaxed now and the forum is largely unmoderated. there are really only two things that will get you banned:

1. Making physical threats against someone.
2. Posting anyone's name, address or phone number with the intent of inciting someone to harrass / harm that person.

Other than that, the gloves are off. I am not going to delete any posts that don't violate the two rules posted above, unless they are totally off topic for this forum. The community is going to have to police itself and, if you don't have a thick skin, I suggest ignoring certain threads.

Why do you have to post here with the intention that hopefully people will applaud and praise you to combat your lack of self esteem ?

Don't take the bait!

Why do you have to post here with the intention that hopefully people will applaud and praise you to combat your lack of self esteem ?

Well, a reasonably innocent question on my part certainly took a left turn. Thinking of the question I certaily should have considered the ADA implications. In my work career, crews I was in charge of literally built 100's of ADA ramps and sidewalks in PA & NY. While I know we are discussing a wooden walkway in NC , the ADA rules are federal. Did not consider those implications when all I really wanted to know was who was responsible, or approved a haljf baked repair to steps on the bottom of a beach access. Now then, thinking about it I see at least three scenario's-
1. I can see a how walkway from a private house that doesn't infringe onto federal land can pretty much do what they want.
2. I don't know how a "community walkway" open to the general public can avoid the ADA rules, regardless of where it exits.
3. A public walkway exiting or infringing onto federal land should have to comply with the ADA rules.
Given that the federal/state land begins at the high water mark which is a fairly open description, lets say that most of the public walkways probaly fall into the ADA baliwick.
Of/On the projects I was aligned with - all using public funds, the argument of cost was WAY, WAY down on the list of exceptions to be exonerated for compliance. Most of the ramps I have seen on the island could -(yes could ) be constructed to ADA spec's. The landscape on the shore is reasonably flat - except for the dune hump. Extending a ramp parallel to the shoreline instead of steps gets you in compliance. Cost - for sure. But at least your talking only about pressure treated lumber, fasteners, and labor. No concrete, steel, trees or major heavy equipment required.
Not my intention at all to cause any constrenation, or start a war on ADA. I can just see now however on how a small bit of shoddy construction can be a huge issue.

Again, you are arguing a point no one contests. If the walkway was not on NPS property then there would be no need for a permit from Superintendent Hallac.

No federal funding was involved.

Again, you are arguing a point no one contests. If the walkway was not on NPS property then there would be no need for a permit from Superintendent Hallac.

No federal funding was involved.

No. I didn't say that - you did. Don't need another permit. The NPS cruises the beachfront almost every morning and notifies the permit holder of any required maintenance, especially after storms or destructive tides. Why don't you call and talk to Superintendent Dave Hallac about your concerns. 252-475-0934 or 252-473-2111.

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No. I didn't say that - you did. Don't need another permit. The NPS cruises the beachfront almost every morning and notifies the permit holder of any required maintenance, especially after storms or destructive tides. Why don't you call and talk to Superintendent Dave Hallac about your concerns. 252-475-0934 or 252-473-2111.