Mid County Bridge

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Who will use the MidCountyBridge? Of course many of those in Corolla (Whalehead and north) will, but how far south of Whalehead? Ocean Sands probably would, Pine Island/Currituck Club most likely. But what about Duck? North of the village proper? South of the village?

Robert


Whomever had google/their gps telling them it was faster to take that route instead of the other.


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This is an interesting thread. In the past, if you posted about this bridge, most of the comments would be in opposition to it. That seems to have changed in this thread.


Whomever had google/their gps telling them it was faster to take that route instead of the other.

RAHohio

This. When Google (and Waze by extension) picks up the new route, that's when/who will start taking the bridge. No broadcast opening, news article, or online forum will do it. Once their smart phone tell them to turn left, bingo. Toll? What toll?

I wonder if Google/Waze will route Duck and SS traffic over the bridge as well. It's probably technically shorter.



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This is an interesting thread. In the past, if you posted about this bridge, most of the comments would be in opposition to it. That seems to have changed in this thread.


J4yDubs


Heck look at how I phrased it. I said it was controversial and was afraid it would deteriorate.

Nice to see that we are 3 pages in and sharing ideas.




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Who will use the MidCountyBridge? Of course many of those in Corolla (Whalehead and north) will, but how far south of Whalehead? Ocean Sands probably would, Pine Island/Currituck Club most likely. But what about Duck? North of the village proper? South of the village?

Robert


Whomever had google/their gps telling them it was faster to take that route instead of the other.

RAHohio


Exactly.




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Wonder if all are aware of the discount toll program if you have a E-Zpass, its a good savings if your down often especially when rates go up to 8.00 dollars one way. I didn't find out till the second year of ownership. Car Wanted to put this out there as a reminder.
I would also wonder if this new toll would offer similar discounts if the bridge ever became a reality.
Click to follow link...



RE: Mid County Bridge




Wonder if all are aware of the discount toll program if you have a E-Zpass, its a good savings if your down often especially when rates go up to 8.00 dollars one way. I didn't find out till the second year of ownership. Car Wanted to put this out there as a reminder.
I would also wonder if this new toll would offer similar discounts if the bridge ever became a reality.
Click to follow link...

WTVa


That is a really great program for anyone with a VA Ez Pass.




RE: Mid County Bridge




Wonder if all are aware of the discount toll program if you have a E-Zpass, its a good savings if your down often especially when rates go up to 8.00 dollars one way. I didn't find out till the second year of ownership. Car Wanted to put this out there as a reminder.
I would also wonder if this new toll would offer similar discounts if the bridge ever became a reality.
Click to follow link...

WTVa


Wow!! Thank you SO MUCH!!!!! I'm from VA and we always take the expressway. This will save us money and I am signing up for it today! I had no idea! We have to go back and forth way more frequently than we should for orthodontist appts, sporting events, etc. When you're not on vacation and live relatively close you find yourself going back and forth way too often!!


RE: Mid County Bridge




Wonder if all are aware of the discount toll program if you have a E-Zpass, its a good savings if your down often especially when rates go up to 8.00 dollars one way. I didn't find out till the second year of ownership. Car Wanted to put this out there as a reminder.
I would also wonder if this new toll would offer similar discounts if the bridge ever became a reality.
Click to follow link...

WTVa


For those who didn't follow the link, the Expressway discount is available ONLY to holders of the VIRGINIA E-ZPass.

In the public meeting 2 years ago in Southern Shores, NCDOT promised that there would be a discount for local residents. I suspect it might only be available to holders of the NC toll road pass. However, for E-ZPass holders from actual E-ZPass states who wouldn't want a pass that wouldn't work in the current E-ZPass states, there is an E-ZPass add-on to the NC pass.


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I haven't verified this, but I read somewhere that you don't have to be a resident of a state to get an EZPass from that state. So, if the discount will save you money, it might be worth looking into. Same goes for other discounts in other states.



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I only live 4 hours away and I never avoid the expressway either! Please, it's the equivalent of one cup of Starbucks. Since we go down every weekend or few weeks so it adds up, but to me it's worth the convenience. Sometimes we even take 2 cars (b/c one kid has to go home early for something) and we still both take it and never considered not! I think nowadays most people just want to get where they are going ASAP.

I am figuring if not traffic it would cut about 20-25 minutes off my trip to Duck. That means I could be at my beach house in 3.5 hours. I would FOR SURE pay. Especially with a full car of pets and kids!

groovygirl222


We take the Expressway but instead of paying the cash rate, we signed up for the Chesapeake Expressway discount program. It pays for itself quickly. Basically cost $40 per year plus 75 cent everytime I pass thru. So, for my mix of visits (over 20 times a year), it's less than $2 each time go thru the toll. Is it a time saver? Arguably maybe a minute or 2 depending on time of day and season but often is about the same. We are paying for travel continuity. For wawa, the Hillcrest location is among the busiest. I prefer the one off Smithfield exit or Kempsville. No fighting to get in or out.


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For those who didn't follow the link, the Expressway discount is available ONLY to holders of the VIRGINIA E-ZPass.

In the public meeting 2 years ago in Southern Shores, NCDOT promised that there would be a discount for local residents. I suspect it might only be available to holders of the NC toll road pass. However, for E-ZPass holders from actual E-ZPass states who wouldn't want a pass that wouldn't work in the current E-ZPass states, there is an E-ZPass add-on to the NC pass.

NightOwl


EZPASS is an integrated system, so an EZPASS bought in any state works in the others, basically from NC to ME and west to Illinois. FL isn't compatible because they opted for SunPass, but they now have EZPass use on Central Florida Expressway roads in Orlando as an accommodation for tourists.

What "home" state issues your pass determines what discounts you can access, but you don't have to live in a state to have it's EZPass, so you can choose which will benefit you most. You also don't need to have all passes from one household issued from the same state, so if you use one car for vacation and the other two for mostly work reasons, they can each have what benefits them most.


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I haven't verified this, but I read somewhere that you don't have to be a resident of a state to get an EZPass from that state. So, if the discount will save you money, it might be worth looking into. Same goes for other discounts in other states.

J4yDubs


This is true Jay. I live in CT, a state with no EZPass or tolls (yet/again) and I've got a Mass EZPass.


RE: Mid County Bridge




I haven't verified this, but I read somewhere that you don't have to be a resident of a state to get an EZPass from that state. So, if the discount will save you money, it might be worth looking into. Same goes for other discounts in other states.

J4yDubs


This is true Jay. I live in CT, a state with no EZPass or tolls (yet/again) and I've got a Mass EZPass.

MikeD84


True on my end. I lived in Pa for years but had an EZ Pass from Delaware.

Delaware did not charge you any markup on transponders or charge a monthly fee, whereas at the time PA charged over $50 for the transponder and a monthly fee.





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So if this bridge is built , what is the estimated toll each way . Sorry if this has been asked before . What would be the highest toll would you be willing to pay ?


RE: Mid County Bridge




So if this bridge is built , what is the estimated toll each way . Sorry if this has been asked before . What would be the highest toll would you be willing to pay ?

izzymcgee


I figure it would cut an hour off my trip at the least. My time is money.

I pay $18 during peak season to cross the CBBT, so anything above 20 is probably my breaking point. That said, I doubt they would charge that high.

I will be in the minority on this I am sure, and I also have stated that I am not a fan of the bridge coming in either. But to save an hour drive in the car? I'd pay $20

Right now I have a 4.5 hour drive from my house in Delaware. This means it is a 3.5 hour drive for me.

As I said, I have never been a fan of the bridge, but if it is coming, and I look at in terms of time saving, well, I have to be honest. I'd pay.



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I believe that most would pay up to about $25 for the bridge. Think about the cost already paid to rent a house and then you can pay $25 to go across the bridge or sit in traffic for an hour or two. I think most will gladly pay the $25 to get to their house earlier.h


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Why not make all the bridges that connect to the main land toll bridges, and while they are at it charge fees for the ferry , You could issue toll less stickers sort of like a easy pass for the full time residents. That way a revenue would be generated bye the visitors to pay for the suggested new bridge and offset maintenance on the others,generate a income base for the ferries thereby reducing any possible tax increases.


RE: Mid County Bridge




Why not make all the bridges that connect to the main land toll bridges, and while they are at it charge fees for the ferry , You could issue toll less stickers sort of like a easy pass for the full time residents. That way a revenue would be generated bye the visitors to pay for the suggested new bridge and offset maintenance on the others,generate a income base for the ferries thereby reducing any possible tax increases.

obx bingy
Why not just add that fee to the house rental and avoid any longer backups at the bridges?


RE: Mid County Bridge




Why not make all the bridges that connect to the main land toll bridges, and while they are at it charge fees for the ferry , You could issue toll less stickers sort of like a easy pass for the full time residents. That way a revenue would be generated bye the visitors to pay for the suggested new bridge and offset maintenance on the others,generate a income base for the ferries thereby reducing any possible tax increases.

obx bingy


If there are tolls, all users pay. Discount programs give frequent users a break. To tie it to residency is no different than closing access to the island to non-residents. A lawsuit pretty much settled that happening again.


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So if this bridge is built , what is the estimated toll each way . Sorry if this has been asked before . What would be the highest toll would you be willing to pay ?

izzymcgee


$25-30, based on the 2016 build cost, and assuming 1k to 2k per day average number of cars crossing.


RE: Mid County Bridge




So if this bridge is built , what is the estimated toll each way . Sorry if this has been asked before . What would be the highest toll would you be willing to pay ?

izzymcgee


$25-30, based on the 2016 build cost, and assuming 1k to 2k per day average number of cars crossing.

KDHBreeze


If the decision to build this bridge is solely based on the ROI from tolls, I do not think there is enough traffic to make it pay. There are many other indirect benefits that come from a bridge, easing traffic across Dare and Currituck counties, emergency access and egress. The state has to get involved and help finance the build and have a reasonable toll and hope to sell the bridge at a loss to a private owner if they desire.

I am not a fan of the bridge as I do not go in the summer so the traffic is not an issue for me. With Currituck county hell bent on letting builders develop every square inch for the tax revenue, tearing down beach cottages and putting up 10-15 bedroom "homes" driving traffic and Saga creeping in to build out more vacant land, I think it is going to happen.


RE: Mid County Bridge




So if this bridge is built , what is the estimated toll each way . Sorry if this has been asked before . What would be the highest toll would you be willing to pay ?

izzymcgee


$25-30, based on the 2016 build cost, and assuming 1k to 2k per day average number of cars crossing.

KDHBreeze


If the decision to build this bridge is solely based on the ROI from tolls, I do not think there is enough traffic to make it pay. There are many other indirect benefits that come from a bridge, easing traffic across Dare and Currituck counties, emergency access and egress. The state has to get involved and help finance the build and have a reasonable toll and hope to sell the bridge at a loss to a private owner if they desire.

I am not a fan of the bridge as I do not go in the summer so the traffic is not an issue for me. With Currituck county hell bent on letting builders develop every square inch for the tax revenue, tearing down beach cottages and putting up 10-15 bedroom "homes" driving traffic and Saga creeping in to build out more vacant land, I think it is going to happen.

chief5130


That's to finance what's left after the state and federal government contributions, not include the costs of personnel for the toll plaza.

It's a proposed span more than twice the length of the Wright Memorial Bridge. It might alleviate congestion, but it would need to greatly increases ingress and egress to the area to be funded. Arguably the biggest benefit would be to businesses that would develop along the travel corridor to the bridge. It would have some utility as an evacuation route, assuming residents were evacuated when visitors are normally evacuated through the existing bridges, as its practical realities make it somewhat more susceptible to wind/weather closures.


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I believe that most would pay up to about $25 for the bridge. Think about the cost already paid to rent a house and then you can pay $25 to go across the bridge or sit in traffic for an hour or two. I think most will gladly pay the $25 to get to their house earlier.h

BenOBX


Its a 10 hour trip for me with minimal stops and no traffic, closer to 12 accounting for more stops and traffic. With multiple visits a year, I'd gladly pay $25 to knock off an hour + in travel time.

With that said, I can see both sides of the argument for and against the bridge. I'm still not sure which side I'd support.




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I thought people vacation in Corolla/Carova to be farther away from everything. Seems like the bridge would negate that.


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