OBX Connection Home > OBX Connection Forum > How about a good debate without the name calling?
How about a good debate without the name calling?

How about a good debate without the name calling?




Here are my thoughts. I am a non resident property owner. In my opinion, as a property owner and tax payer, any owner and immediate family members should be able to go to their home. Self quarantine for two weeks should be imposed. I arrived here on Wednesday. As I said in a previous thread, I brought everything with me. Even topped off my Prius before I arrived. I have imposed a self quarantine on myself and my daughter.

In my humble opinion mistakes have been made by everyone everywhere. my thoughts are - what can be done in the future for improvements? I am hoping this whole disaster makes our country realize our entire health care system is a nightmare. People in power need to work together and find some answers. Drug companies are making way too much money, that also needs to change.

1. Shame on those owners who copied their passes to give to their renters. However - when I came across the bridge I only showed my entry pass through the window, no one checked my ID. I was prepared to show my ID and my tax bill. ID's should have been checked at the checkpoint. Your ID does not match your tax bill, you are not allowed in.
2. For way too many years, the tax revenue from the Outer Banks has supported the entire state of North Carolina. That needs to stop. I own on a street where more than half of the owners are full time residents. ALL of them go to Virginia Beach for the their health care for anything more than a hang nail. The population on this entire island is large enough to support a decent hospital with a few specialities. Dare and Currituck county need to work together to get more of the tax money to stay here and improve.
3. I am not trying to sound rude, but there is no better way to say it. What if during this crisis, Virginia decided to say no to North Carolina residents for health care? It would never happen, but devils advocate. What are the other health care options in North Caroline? Where else do people go? Duke University has a phenomenal facility, but that's a long way away.

I think instead of sitting behind our computers and name calling we should try and work together to find solutions to some problems facing us during this crisis. Let's just have a conversation. Thoughts?

Edited - I have read in several different places for many years that the majority of the tax revenue was sent to other places in North Carolina. Maybe I am completely wrong, but it's not what I had read over the last 20 years.Yes, I am completely aware it's how the system works. I grew up in NY. The tolls on the bridges crossing the Hudson River were only supposed to last until the bridges were paid off. Ha!! Now the money supports the subway. However, there are some darn good hospitals there.

A large hospital? Not what I am suggesting. I would say a slighter bigger hospital with an ICU unit would be more feasible and completely supported.

What if you live here and were locked out of Virginia Hospitals? Where would you go for quality healthcare?



OBX Connection Sponsored Links




RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




I'll bite,
Imposing self quarantine won't work. Some people are selfish and will do what they please regardless of what they are told, so no way to enforce it.

"Virginia decided to say no to North Carolina residents for health care? It would never happen"
Don't say that. Anything can happen. We are already seeing things happen that just a few weeks ago would seem not possible.


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




And to think that just a few weeks ago all we had to worry about was some surfer getting arrested for accessing a public beach. Fish


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




And to think that just a few weeks ago all we had to worry about was some surfer getting arrested for accessing a public beach. Fish

Squid Pro Quo


Hahahah! Soooo true!!!


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




My wife is bored already.

"Let's play. What's there to do? We could do our taxes!"

Only a CPA would say that. Theeth smiley


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




I've been communicating with the administration where I want to college about setting something up. An administration official said that she is pretty sure her son had coronavirus. Thinks she had it, and is pretty sure other family members had it. They had the very symptoms being described. They were in Europe and rode the Chunnel train. That is, in close proximity with lots of people in a confined space.

She said her son had a 100.3 fever and a dry cough. Lasted three days. Said he sounded like a seal barking. Theeth smiley

Have to wonder how many people they were in contact with because the U.S. didn't take early measures and publicize self-confinement and distancing very early on.


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




"For way too many years, the tax revenue from the Outer Banks has supported the entire state of North Carolina. That needs to stop." Gotta disagree. That is the way taxes work on every level. I could argue that my federal tax dollars should not be used in repeat disaster zones such as the Outer Banks, which is subject to hurricanes, flooding. The very nature of the OBX requires this. Your tax money goes to support water quality efforts in the Chesapeake Bay, where I live. That's the way it works.


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




I have a calendar that hands on the inside pantry door that we put what we're doing on it. At year end, we keep them, and it's sort of a diary. Nan and I have always done a lot. Nan because she likes to. Me, reluctantly. Theeth smiley

I looked at the calendar just a few weeks ago and thought that the next three months: March, April, and May may be the busiest we've ever had.

Nan two weeks in SLC for work. Me, a week of spring cleaning in Corolla. Both of us in Corolla for a week in May. Two plays: Mamma Mia and An American in Paris. Nan going to another play in Boston and brunch with a friend. Nan going to her parents and an event at Rutgers in NJ. Nan going to another event at RU. Nan invited to a symposium in Vegas and me tagging along.

And that's just off the top of my head without looking at the calendar. We had things non-stop for three months.

Now? Nothing. Theeth smiley


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?






2. For way too many years, the tax revenue from the Outer Banks has supported the entire state of North Carolina. That needs to stop.

walkingonsunshine
Now just where are you getting this info??? Sounds like BS to me.


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?






2. For way too many years, the tax revenue from the Outer Banks has supported the entire state of North Carolina. That needs to stop.

walkingonsunshine
Now just where are you getting this info??? Sounds like BS to me.

robluc

Gotta agree here (and that's pretty rare). Where in the world did you get that "the Outer Banks has supported the entire state"? The Outer Banks is a small piece of a large tourist economy in NC. We have a long and beautiful coast line that extend far south and well as major cities, small towns, and awesome mountains.

I don't disagree with the rest of your post, but you have to keep in mind that building a large hospital that would be basically for a 3-5 month season isn't in the cards. People that live or buy homes in the Outer Banks are well aware of the heath care situation. They make and live with that choice.

John


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




Coming out of this will there be a greater respect and appreciation for the Tourists?




RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




Coming out of this will there be a greater respect and appreciation for the Tourists?

Bill


There's a silver lining! I think so. Folks down there are pretty frightened. The community is just coming out of hibernation, so to speak, and now their food supply is drying up in front of them. Folks are on edge. We got to our home on Thursday last week, just before the closure. We have some construction loose ends that needed tying up, plus we actually thought for a minute we could stay for a few weeks, social distancing. Talked to the contractor and construction projects are drying up by the hour...people who have projects in progress...huge projects, getting ready for this rental season, are now looking down the barrel of cancellations for who knows how long. It's scary. They are cutting staff now...the pipeline for work is running to a drip. Not even touching the service industry....grocery stores are pretty good, but they don't need to staff up for local traffic. For restaurants, its like they are going back to January settings.

DH got called back for a piece of business here he thought would be cancelled before we left. There's another silver lining. Gotta keep looking for those.


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




Coming out of this will there be a greater respect and appreciation for the Tourists?

Bill


After tourists being blamed for the rat problem on the OBX in another thread, I wonder.


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




Coming out of this will there be a greater respect and appreciation for the Tourists?

Bill


My guess is - the residents who like the tourists will continue to like the tourists and the residents who dislike the tourists will continue to dislike the tourists.


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




Coming out of this will there be a greater respect and appreciation for the Tourists?

Bill


My guess is - the residents who like the tourists will continue to like the tourists and the residents who dislike the tourists will continue to dislike the tourists.

fredneckians


What about the tourists, who do they like or dislike?


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




How did you get in?


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




How did you get in?

Carolina Calm


Do you mean me? The County started issuing permits to residents and non-residents on 3/17. I applied for a NRHO permit then and we arrived on 3/19. They closed the County on 3/20, so just a day before the closure happened.

While I am here, I will share this story I heard from a contractor we are working with: the Currituck County police/sheriff towed away 16 parked vehicles from the BP on the west side of the WMB. Turns out, people who were not Dare residents were parking there and meeting residents who were going across the bridge, picking up non-residents up and bringing them back across the bridge.


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




And to think that just a few weeks ago all we had to worry about was some surfer getting arrested for accessing a public beach. Fish

Squid Pro Quo
Now you have the access he did. Wink smiley


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




I'll start dropping people off at the BP for a fee


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




And to think that just a few weeks ago all we had to worry about was some surfer getting arrested for accessing a public beach. Fish

Squid Pro Quo


Hahahah! Soooo true!!!

OceanBlue

I would love to hear Bob Hovey's thoughts on un-restricted access.


RE: How about a good debate without the name calling?




is anyone sneaking in at the VA line? Might want to post a few Militia up there to guard.


OBX Connection Sponsored Links