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One sad thing happening to Outer Banks

By: obxgrlinva
10/1/2003 10:39 AM

Is that developers are going to all of the mom amd pop motels asking them to sell out. Someone told me thismorning that 6 more have took the offers to sell out. The Cavalier Motel was offered $8,000,000 just last week and Bless the owners heart he is NOT selling out! He says that as long as his family wants to keep the motel and they do no amount of money if worth it.

Bravo to the Cavalier Motel!!! The same local told me that it is a shame at what is happening to the area with the developers and the humongus houses being built down there and the motel owners selling out it making it worse. It;s beginning to be like Florida, Myrtle Beach and beach up north.

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Couldn't agree more, and I was afraid of this when I started hearing about the damage.

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10/1/2003 10:55 AM


By: Ace Mclean
10/1/2003 11:02 AM

This is a tuff problem to tackle, similar to our farmland situation here in PA. There are public and private organizations devoted to raising money to protect farmland and open space. Maybe something similar could be done on the OBX? I guess the problem is that to the outsider a big house doesn't look any more or less appealing than a motel (no offense).

Let's hope the OBX really doesn't go the way of VA Beach/OC/Myrtle and start allowing loads of high rise hotels. I suppose that's one good thing about the fact the islands are relatively unstable.

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By: A-not
10/1/2003 12:18 PM

Not everyone can afford those big houses to rent. I don't want to stay with a bunch of people for a whole week just to stay in those big houses. I wish more of the 1 family 3 bedroom houses would be built!

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I would think that if the opposite was true, home owners selling to a hotel chain, that we would see an increase in hotels. The way it looks is that some people are asking to buy a motel to put up some big houses, that's a bit different. Could it be the trend for the future and the small motels be phased out for larger homes? We shall see.

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10/1/2003 1:25 PM


By: Robert
10/1/2003 2:20 PM

To me the diversity of accomadations on OBX has been its great appeal in recent years, say since the mid 80s. You have the huge homes in Currituck County (although I have to say that the Pine Island development leaves alot to be desired from an aesthetic point of view)all the way to the motel rooms of Nags Head, and everything in between.

But with the popularity of OBX, and the increasing property values and property taxes, change as you talk about is sure to come. It has ruined many parts of the New Jersey shore. Huge oceanfront homes are being torn down in NJ and rebuilt with larger homes.....same as I see being done in Whalehead.

I would hate to see more high rise hotels....they should be zoned out.

I am surprised that the developers are going for homes rather than bigger motels/hotels.

It is truly sad to see the mom and pop motels disappearing and taking with them a segment of the population that may not be able to experience the beauty of OBX. In addition, the retro, 50s style motels are part of the fabric of the OBX that is being lost forever.

I believe that the Towns of Kitty Hawk, Kill Devil Hills and Nags Head should take another look at their current zoning plan....maybe some sort of local historic district should protect things that can never be replaced....maybe like Nags Head did to protect the classic Nags Head cottages.

I hope the OBX never becomes another Virginia Beach, or Myrtle Beach, or Hilton Head.....don't get me wrong, those places are OK, but we don't need another one here.

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By: Robert
10/1/2003 2:22 PM

Tough to make the economics work with a 3 bedroom home A-not. That is the harsh reality of the situation.

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By: Mayberry Guy
10/1/2003 4:01 PM

I agree wholeheartedly. My wife and I usually come down in October, just the two of us, and we end up renting about three times more house than we need simply because we enjoy our privacy and there are nowhere near enough nice 1 or 2 bedroom cottages on the Outer Banks. I would hate to see the Outer Banks become another Myrtle Beach too, that is not why we come to the Outer Banks.

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Ya'll have missed another huge impact to the business community with the developers bulldozing all our motels. It takes away restaurant business. We have lost 100's of motel rooms in the last few years and we restaurant owners have felt the impact. By the way Hello anyone!! I'm a new girl to the forum. 9th generation outer banker.

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10/1/2003 5:02 PM


By: Robert
10/1/2003 5:15 PM

Good point beachykeen, I overlooked that. But didn't alot of those motel rooms have kitchens?

Are you in the restaurant business beachykeen?

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only a few had efficiency kitchens. the rest were only rooms. yes i am a restaurant owner, i won't say which just in case mt opinions differ from others, i don't want them to not visit my place. People are like that. I will say it is a restaurant for people who enjoy finer foods.

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10/1/2003 7:28 PM


jack up your prices.

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10/1/2003 7:36 PM


By: Robert
10/1/2003 8:16 PM

Thanks, I didn't know how many had efficiency kitchens. Trust this changing land use will not negatively affect (or is that effect?) your business too much. I can certainly understand your point of view about the change from motels to homes. Good luck to you beachykeen.

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Jacking up our prices doesn't solve much in the long run. If you're too expensive your central base of customers becomes so small you're only left with a restaurant people dine at on special occasions. That's alot of empty seats and it makes for a very cold winter.

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10/1/2003 8:17 PM


By: Ohio Steve
10/1/2003 8:30 PM

9th generation !?!? I had no idea there were local families that go back that far. You must be one of a very small group. I bet you have some great pictures and stories of the way it used to be.

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My father has traced our family to the late 1600's. I'm sure we are a product of pirates and scavengers..Ha! My only brush with greatness (if you would call it that, and I doubt you would) Is my great, great uncle was Frank Tate who was the Kitty Hawk Post master that wrote to the wright brothers about the Outer Banks. Heres a little "inside" family lore my grandmother use to tell me. The Wright Bros. actually lived with the Tate family for a while when they were doing some testing with their gliders.They went back to Ohio for a while leaving their gliders in the carriage house (garage). anyway, they were gone a long time so my Mrs. Tate thought why leave all that silk on the wings to go bad. so she stripped off the fabric and sewed dresses for her daughters! When the Brothers returned they had no wings!! Yes, I have lots of stories about the way it use to be, I only wish my Parents had bought more Land!!!! Oh well........

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10/1/2003 8:43 PM


i said that tongue in cheek. the problem isn't the lost hotel rooms it's the cost in general to vacation on the outer banks. rental costs have skyrocketed along with the add-ons the realtors tack on plus the high tax the local governments charge. in my opinion tourists are just cutting back and going the cheaper fastfood route and only maybe going out for dinner once at a fancier restaurant while vacationing. just my opinion.

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10/1/2003 9:09 PM


beachykeen, We need to meet sometime. My family is from buffalo city and my Grandmother was Sam Tate's sister. you wouldn't believe the photo's I had left to me. e-mail?

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10/1/2003 9:40 PM


and for those of you who think Buffalo city is in New York your wrong. It WAS a very busy little town down here long ago.

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10/1/2003 9:44 PM


The world just get's smaller and smaller. Now how cool is that?

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10/2/2003 12:29 AM


Going fast food or going elsewhere. I'm from PA and I travel the 8 hours to the Banks because I hate the Jersey Shore. I do Mom & Pops and have never set foot in a fast food place on the Banks and I will not. I've known for some time that I'm going to have to move south one of these days. I wonder if Topsail still looks like the beach that time forgot?

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10/2/2003 8:42 AM


By: Sea Glass
10/2/2003 8:58 AM

lol! You were right, Cos. Being a yankee, my first thought was Buffalo? Thanks for clarifying.

:-)

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I thought that would happen, haha. Actually the logging company that started the town was from Buffalo city, NY and that’s where it got its name.
It was kind of like the Wild West they even had their own currency.

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10/2/2003 1:24 PM


I spent the second week of September in North Topsail Beach this year. Prices had already dipped to offseason. Hardly anyone on the beach. Nice houses, but few of them, and empty lots available. Hardly any commercial, just a few stores and restaurants in Surf City. The beach is beautiful with warm, gentle water. Very quiet.

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10/2/2003 4:13 PM


My father's family is from Buffalo city too! We are sooo related. My relatives owned the sawmill at the turn of the century. It is a small world. I called my brother to make sure i wasn't talking to him. That would have been too funny!We own wonderful photos of buffalo city. My brother has them.I remember visiting the town (well, there was no town, the forrest took it all back)when i was a little girl. There was some old man that lived bck there then in the one or two remaining buildings left. But i remember the train tracks which i thought was so weird being that a train was actually back there in the woods 100 years ago. do you have some pictures to email me. How do i give out my personal email without the forum reading it?

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10/2/2003 7:33 PM