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What a powerful graphic that is.

Reading the comments they mention a jetty.

It seems when we look at these issues in a lot of places, it gets worse because funding to maintain something is lost, or it is deemed improper and a waste of money. (I don't profess to know anything about this in Buxton)

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What a powerful graphic that is.

Reading the comments they mention a jetty.

It seems when we look at these issues in a lot of places, it gets worse because funding to maintain something is lost, or it is deemed improper and a waste of money. (I don't profess to know anything about this in Buxton)

If you are so inclined and have the time, follow Brett and his work to restore the "jetty" - I'm violently against hardscapes, but he opened my mind up specific to the Buxton situ. About to start a call, but I'll look for a few links

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You're telling me that for 40 years I coulda been building on solid ground?

Ain't no way!

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pic from www.darenc.gov/government/beach-nourishment/buxton-beach-nourishment

"In 2022, approximately 2.9 miles of shoreline in Buxton, from the Haulover Day Use Area to the oceanfront groin at the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, were nourished at a construction cost of $18,106,674. The nourishment project began on June 30, 2022, and was completed on August 16, 2022."

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screenshot from the map linked in the Dare County report.

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Not sure if there is anything to be done to stop the water/sand from moving. It is so sad to see these houses go down. I think its a cautionary tale for all those along the beach. We may slow it but we will never have enough money to stop it. That is the reality.

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The pictures from Buxton are really sad. We have stayed at three of the oceanfront houses in Buxton in the past and have such great memories. None of them have collapsed, but I know that they will likely come down before the nourishment next summer.

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Since I’m one of the old timers as far as outer banks visitors. 1962. this was my fathers favorite vacation destination and he went down first to see the wright memorial since. Anyhow I have seen all areas of the outer banks. And quite frankly Hatteras island always seemed unstable with their narrow sections and when “cheap” lots were being sold my family passed. . I can remember Hatteras island as being a place to drive to see the lighthouses and get the ferry over to Ocracoke to see where Blackbeard was killed. There wasn’t much there. I wish I had the photos to show you. I’m not surprised at all with the houses collapsing. I can’t remember the hurricanes name in the 1950s I think where my parents said it changed everything on the outer banks. OBX lol that name never existed then. It was kitty hawk kill devil hills and nags head.

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I looked up a hurricane named HAZEL 1954

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I looked up a hurricane named HAZEL 1954

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Since I’m one of the old timers as far as outer banks visitors. 1962. this was my fathers favorite vacation destination and he went down first to see the wright memorial since. Anyhow I have seen all areas of the outer banks. And quite frankly Hatteras island always seemed unstable with their narrow sections and when “cheap” lots were being sold my family passed. . I can remember Hatteras island as being a place to drive to see the lighthouses and get the ferry over to Ocracoke to see where Blackbeard was killed. There wasn’t much there. I wish I had the photos to show you. I’m not surprised at all with the houses collapsing. I can’t remember the hurricanes name in the 1950s I think where my parents said it changed everything on the outer banks. OBX lol that name never existed then. It was kitty hawk kill devil hills and nags head.

Been coming down since the 60’s.
My parents lived in NH for 30 years.
We always just said “the banks” or “Nags Head” (after my parents bought the house there.)

My understanding is that “OBX” was coined as a marketing ploy.

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I looked up a hurricane named HAZEL 1954

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WRAL of Raleigh does some excellent documentaries like the one I posted on Hazel. Their most recent was released only six days ago, and it’s on last year‘s Hurricane Helene.

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It was a lot longer than 10 years.
When the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse was built in 1868 it was over 1,500 feet from the ocean. It's old foundation is now under water.

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In 1959, I was 20 months old and climbed the Cape Hatteras Lighthouse so my parents say. Took a ferry to Hatteras Island before the original bridge was built. Parents drove down here with us three girls in a VW Bug and Big Al was with the grandparents back in VA and youngest brother had not even been thought of yet!

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No car seats, no seat belts, no helmets.... hahaha! Parents slapping our legs to shut up in the back seat...I mean loud girls! Girls!!!! Nuff said!

Still the same with us three girls today! Lol

Poor Daddy! He loved us so! Never said a word. Marine!

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Since I’m one of the old timers as far as outer banks visitors. 1962. this was my fathers favorite vacation destination and he went down first to see the wright memorial since. Anyhow I have seen all areas of the outer banks. And quite frankly Hatteras island always seemed unstable with their narrow sections and when “cheap” lots were being sold my family passed. . I can remember Hatteras island as being a place to drive to see the lighthouses and get the ferry over to Ocracoke to see where Blackbeard was killed. There wasn’t much there. I wish I had the photos to show you. I’m not surprised at all with the houses collapsing. I can’t remember the hurricanes name in the 1950s I think where my parents said it changed everything on the outer banks. OBX lol that name never existed then. It was kitty hawk kill devil hills and nags head.

Been coming down since the 60’s.
My parents lived in NH for 30 years.
We always just said “the banks” or “Nags Head” (after my parents bought the house there.)

My understanding is that “OBX” was coined as a marketing ploy.

Growing up in Elizabeth City, it was simply known as the beach. If you said you were going to the beach, everyone knew where you were going. In fact, I was about 16 years old when I first heard the term Outer Banks. And that was from Jap Richardson, my boss and owner of J&H Beach Service at the time. I recall that when I was a kid, the radio commercials used to refer to it as the Dare Beaches, but it was not until 1965 that I ever heard the term Outer Banks, and by that time my family had had a house in Kill Devil Hills for over 10 years. People from out of state usually referred to it as Nags Head.

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OBX came along much later in the 90s. It was started by James Douglas. I knew him when he worked at Awful Arthur’s, and he later opened and owned Chile Peppers.

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EZ: wasn't the OBX the originator of Awful Arthur's? I remember going there in Nags Head, hugely pregnant, in Sept of 1987 and sitting with our group in a tower room for dinner. Just watched everyone imbibe in adult bevs and I was the DD.

My home town has/had two of them which I frequented. Don't know if they are still there or not since I don't do that scene anymore.

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A year or two after the black and white oval OBX stickers started appearing all too frequently in Richmond I saw one on the back of a parked SUV while I was walking to lunch one day. Paid it no mind until I did a double take. It said BOX and in small letters underneath where Outer Banks NC should have been it said What Shoes Come In.

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EZ: wasn't the OBX the originator of Awful Arthur's? I remember going there in Nags Head, hugely pregnant, in Sept of 1987 and sitting with our group in a tower room for dinner. Just watched everyone imbibe in adult bevs and I was the DD.

My home town has/had two of them which I frequented. Don't know if they are still there or not since I don't do that scene anymore.

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I think the one in KDH was the original. It was started by Jay Whitehead, and I know that he talked about franchising it, but I don’t know if that ever came about. I understand that there is one in Salem, Virginia, and there was one in Norfolk, but it closed down.

The building in KDH is fairly old and goes back much farther than AA. It was built by a man named Shug York who along with Robert Young developed the neighborhood now known as Avalon. He opened it as Shug’s Pancake House. It later became Stormin’ Norman’s which was a rowdy late night spot. Is there still an Awful Arthur’s in Salem?


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Edit: The date 1991 must be a misprint. I’m pretty sure it goes back farther than that into the mid 80s when he first opened that place.

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EZ: wasn't the OBX the originator of Awful Arthur's? I remember going there in Nags Head, hugely pregnant, in Sept of 1987 and sitting with our group in a tower room for dinner. Just watched everyone imbibe in adult bevs and I was the DD.

My home town has/had two of them which I frequented. Don't know if they are still there or not since I don't do that scene anymore.

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I think the one in KDH was the original. It was started by Jay Whitehead, and I know that he talked about franchising it, but I don’t know if that ever came about. I understand that there is one in Salem, Virginia, and there was one in Norfolk, but it closed down.

The building in KDH is fairly old and goes back much farther than AA. It was built by a man named Shug York who along with Robert Young developed the neighborhood now known as Avalon. He opened it as Shug’s Pancake House. It later became Stormin’ Norman’s which was a rowdy late night spot. Is there still an Awful Arthur’s in Salem?


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Edit: The date 1991 must be a misprint. I’m pretty sure it goes back farther than that into the mid 80s when he first opened that place.

Yes! There is one in Salem, VA...hop, skip and jump from me. Did a paint night there one night a few years ago! And one in downtown Roanoke where fellow employees huddled after quittin' time occasionally and another at a mall. So, I am certain this guy must have franchised. Always enjoyed it and the food was good. Thank you for the research!

FYI: Have a couple of Duck Donuts in my neck of the woods there now, too.

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Duck Donuts is putting tiny little Duck, NC on the map.


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I think the one in KDH was the original. It was started by Jay Whitehead, and I know that he talked about franchising it, but I don’t know if that ever came about. I understand that there is one in Salem, Virginia, and there was one in Norfolk, but it closed down.

The building in KDH is fairly old and goes back much farther than AA. It was built by a man named Shug York who along with Robert Young developed the neighborhood now known as Avalon. He opened it as Shug’s Pancake House. It later became Stormin’ Norman’s which was a rowdy late night spot. Is there still an Awful Arthur’s in Salem?

There was an Awful Arthurs in Roanoke 1 mile from my buddy's house. He knew the owner and it was a franchise thing. Then that location closed but there was one in downtown Roanoke.

My 1st summer towing banners here was 1981. It was Stormin Normans back then. I think AA started in 82 or 83?

I dated a gal who originally was from Richmond. She said: "We're going to "Nags Head" even if you were going to Kitty Hawk or Duck. Everywhere down here was "Nags Head"!

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It said BOX and in small letters underneath where Outer Banks NC should have been it said What Shoes Come In.

Thinking it (BOX) might be a reference to a New England bar

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Ain't no thing.

As others have said, when I was a younker the banks were referred to as Nags Head, no matter where you were.

Then when I was at university I met a guy that was always going on about his annual fishing trip to Rodanthe* with his dad. And of course they would drive down to Hatteras. But never any mention of any of the other communities/villages on the island.

* Yes, he pronounced it RodanthEE, even back then... 40+ years ago.

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