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Heated pool/hot tub dates?

By: JeffT453
2/27/2021 6:52 AM

Hi everyone

I haven’t closed on my new house yet, so I don’t have access to the owner’s forum so I’ll ask here

My house is set to have a hot tub and private heated pool. I’m starting to fill out the pool maintenance forms, I’m curious what dates people generally set for open and close. I’m thinking the pool can open and close fairly early/late because it will be heated. Maybe April 1 - Nov 1?

As for the spa, wondering if just keeping it open full year is worth while or close it up for January and February

Any insights or recommendations on this? Thanks


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By: macdaddy
2/27/2021 8:01 AM

We keep our hot tub open all year so that it is available to us whenever we visit during the off seasons. If you keep your calendar open for Thanksgiving or Christmas, your PM may require that the Hot Tub stay open. We don't take reservations before the first of May, so pool opening is usually 3rd week in April. Most early-mid May guests buy pool heat. Check with your PM if you open/take reservations for Easter Weeks and Spring Break you may be required to open this year in mid-march.

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By: Bill
2/27/2021 8:03 AM

Hot Tub Open all year!

Nothing better than being in a hot tub in 20 degree weather.

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By: smlobx
2/27/2021 8:07 AM

First off welcome to the wonderful world of beach home ownership.

There are several questions you’re going to have to ask yourself including:

1. Do you really want to have your home rented 12 month of the year like you implied (keeping the not tub open in the winter?) Most owners don’t as the operating cost vs. the income in the off season is hard to justify. Plus this doesn’t give you time to make the necessary repairs and upgrades that you’ll need to do.

2. What direction does your pool face? This will determine in part how much it’s going to cost to heat it and what you should charge. Don’t underestimate this cost as it can be substantial.

3. What kind of pool heat do you have? Propane heater will heat quicker but can be expensive. A heat pump can take several days to bring up the temps depending on the weather and orientation of the pool.

We have removed our propane pool heater as the operating costs didn’t justify the income. Instead we have built and will be offering a solar pool heater at no costs to our guests. We are hoping that this will make our southern facing pool usable from early May until mid October which is when our home is available.

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By: KDHBreeze
2/27/2021 8:15 AM

First off welcome to the wonderful world of beach home ownership.

There are several questions you’re going to have to ask yourself including:

1. Do you really want to have your home rented 12 month of the year like you implied (keeping the not tub open in the winter?) Most owners don’t as the operating cost vs. the income in the off season is hard to justify. Plus this doesn’t give you time to make the necessary repairs and upgrades that you’ll need to do.

smlobx


Depending on the owner's income, other assets, and situation, apportioning that time as personal use time vs. unrented or unavailable time can actually be quite costly. No one right answer for all financial and tax situations.

For the OP, how much sun does your pool get? What way does the hosue face? The pool? What kind of heat system are you using? Are you on municipal water or well water? Hot tubs can be costly to drain, clean, and refill weekly depending on a lot of factors.

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By: Babylin
2/27/2021 8:53 AM

Congratulations. To share our personal experience, we keep the spa open all year round so that we can enjoy it when we are down at the house in the off season. It is an awesome way to relax after a hard day of repairs. The electric to keep it going is really very nominal.

Our pool is heated as well. Heat is offered during the shoulder seasons. We open up May 1 and close end of October. Those dates work very well for us and our renters.

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By: JoyinVirginia
2/27/2021 9:07 AM

Congrats! We only have a hot tub. We used to have the hot tub drained and turned off in winter, but with advice from our pool maintenance person, we tried just having temp turned down during months house is unoccupied. Electric cost was minor, so we kept it operating past couple Winters. It's up to you.

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By: Whaler9818
2/27/2021 9:22 AM

Congrats! We only have a hot tub. We used to have the hot tub drained and turned off in winter, but with advice from our pool maintenance person, we tried just having temp turned down during months house is unoccupied. Electric cost was minor, so we kept it operating past couple Winters. It's up to you.

JoyinVirginia


Why did your HT guy recommend keep the HT open all winter?

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By: JeffT453
2/27/2021 9:24 AM

Congratulations. To share our personal experience, we keep the spa open all year round so that we can enjoy it when we are down at the house in the off season. It is an awesome way to relax after a hard day of repairs. The electric to keep it going is really very nominal.

Our pool is heated as well. Heat is offered during the shoulder seasons. We open up May 1 and close end of October. Those dates work very well for us and our renters.

Babylin


So you find the pool gets used Oct 15-31?

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By: GrandpaD
2/27/2021 12:20 PM

When we were looking to buy we looked at some rentals with pools. I noticed that most heated the pool for a surcharge in Spring and Fall and let Mother Nature do her thing during the summer months. The few with solar didn't assess a charge at any time. Hot tubs were always heated.

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By: Johnspigner
2/27/2021 12:24 PM

Your PM will set the dates because thats what they advertise

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By: scw106
2/27/2021 12:55 PM

I shut my house down Jan 1 thru March 31. The pool is partially drained & covered and the hot tub is completely drained. The Spectrum cable is put on seasonal, too. I can't see paying for these utilities, other than heat set at 55 degrees, when no one is there.

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By: Babylin
2/27/2021 1:57 PM

Congratulations. To share our personal experience, we keep the spa open all year round so that we can enjoy it when we are down at the house in the off season. It is an awesome way to relax after a hard day of repairs. The electric to keep it going is really very nominal.

Our pool is heated as well. Heat is offered during the shoulder seasons. We open up May 1 and close end of October. Those dates work very well for us and our renters.

Babylin


So you find the pool gets used Oct 15-31?

JeffT453


Yes, the pool gets used in October. For some years if we had no bookings for the last two weeks of October, we would just call the management company and shut the house down early and winterize the pool. You probably have that flexibility with your dates as well so I don't think you need to worry too much about the exact dates.

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By: JoyinVirginia
2/27/2021 2:10 PM

Congrats! We only have a hot tub. We used to have the hot tub drained and turned off in winter, but with advice from our pool maintenance person, we tried just having temp turned down during months house is unoccupied. Electric cost was minor, so we kept it operating past couple Winters. It's up to you.

JoyinVirginia

Why did your HT guy recommend keep the HT open all winter?

Whaler9818

I used to think we had to winterize it. Convenience for us, in case we come down when house is closed, to do maintenance and want to use it. We just winterize outside of the house, leave hot tub full. Also water conservation, why drain when you can do cleaning and the shock treatment before season starts.

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By: Babylin
2/27/2021 2:33 PM

Congrats! We only have a hot tub. We used to have the hot tub drained and turned off in winter, but with advice from our pool maintenance person, we tried just having temp turned down during months house is unoccupied. Electric cost was minor, so we kept it operating past couple Winters. It's up to you.

JoyinVirginia

Why did your HT guy recommend keep the HT open all winter?

Whaler9818

I used to think we had to winterize it. Convenience for us, in case we come down when house is closed, to do maintenance and want to use it. We just winterize outside of the house, leave hot tub full. Also water conservation, why drain when you can do cleaning and the shock treatment before season starts.

JoyinVirginia


We keep our spa open all year not only for convenience but also because its an older spa and we fear it may not start up if it gets winterized. We do do an end of season water dump.

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By: OceanBlue
2/27/2021 3:05 PM

We keep our spa open all year not only for convenience but also because its an older spa and we fear it may not start up if it gets winterized. We do do an end of season water dump.

Babylin


One of the things we've learned about the restart is that often the motor trips the GFCI after sitting in a humid/salty environment and many perfectly good motors are replaced as a result....there is a "work around" for that issue. Also douse the motor w something like FluidFilm before shutting down for the winter.

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By: KDHBreeze
2/28/2021 9:28 AM

Congrats! We only have a hot tub. We used to have the hot tub drained and turned off in winter, but with advice from our pool maintenance person, we tried just having temp turned down during months house is unoccupied. Electric cost was minor, so we kept it operating past couple Winters. It's up to you.

JoyinVirginia

Why did your HT guy recommend keep the HT open all winter?

Whaler9818

I used to think we had to winterize it. Convenience for us, in case we come down when house is closed, to do maintenance and want to use it. We just winterize outside of the house, leave hot tub full. Also water conservation, why drain when you can do cleaning and the shock treatment before season starts.

JoyinVirginia


People drain and refill on each turnover, so not a big deal to do it seasonally.

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By: Squid Pro Quo
2/28/2021 10:03 AM

Congrats! We only have a hot tub. We used to have the hot tub drained and turned off in winter, but with advice from our pool maintenance person, we tried just having temp turned down during months house is unoccupied. Electric cost was minor, so we kept it operating past couple Winters. It's up to you.

JoyinVirginia

Why did your HT guy recommend keep the HT open all winter?

Whaler9818

I used to think we had to winterize it. Convenience for us, in case we come down when house is closed, to do maintenance and want to use it. We just winterize outside of the house, leave hot tub full. Also water conservation, why drain when you can do cleaning and the shock treatment before season starts.

JoyinVirginia


People drain and refill on each turnover, so not a big deal to do it seasonally.

KDHBreeze


Given that it takes up to 12 hours for a 220 volt tub to heat the water, and twice as long for a 110 tub, I don’t think anybody has drained the tub on turn day in the houses I’ve rented. The water is already at 104 degrees when I arrive. A decent 6 person tub holds around 450 gallons and would take over a hour to fill (Depending on how close you are to a water tower) so I don’t think the tub maintenance company is hanging around that long.

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By: KDHBreeze
2/28/2021 11:16 AM



Given that it takes up to 12 hours for a 220 volt tub to heat the water, and twice as long for a 110 tub, I don’t think anybody has drained the tub on turn day in the houses I’ve rented. The water is already at 104 degrees when I arrive. A decent 6 person tub holds around 450 gallons and would take over a hour to fill (Depending on how close you are to a water tower) so I don’t think the tub maintenance company is hanging around that long.

Squid Pro Quo


The service that checks water and adjusts pool and hot tub chemicals usually wouldn't be the service that would be draining, cleaning, and refilling. They're two different tasks.

Although, hot tubs made and sold for rentals don't take anywhere near 12 hours come up to temp, though lots of residential models definitely take longer.

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By: Squid Pro Quo
2/28/2021 1:52 PM



Given that it takes up to 12 hours for a 220 volt tub to heat the water, and twice as long for a 110 tub, I don’t think anybody has drained the tub on turn day in the houses I’ve rented. The water is already at 104 degrees when I arrive. A decent 6 person tub holds around 450 gallons and would take over a hour to fill (Depending on how close you are to a water tower) so I don’t think the tub maintenance company is hanging around that long.

Squid Pro Quo


The service that checks water and adjusts pool and hot tub chemicals usually wouldn't be the service that would be draining, cleaning, and refilling. They're two different tasks.

Although, hot tubs made and sold for rentals don't take anywhere near 12 hours come up to temp, though lots of residential models definitely take longer.

KDHBreeze


Really? Explain the technology that would make a cheap rental unit heat water faster than a more expensive top of the line unit. Most of the tubs at rentals I’ve occupied are knock off models sold at big box stores or Ace. They definitely take more than 12 hours to heat up to operating temperature.
Even the newest state of the art Balboa Spa Pack models take more than12 hours to heat up.
It would be nice if they drained the hot tub after each guest leaves, but I don’t see that happening. Maybe somebody here that rents their house, and has a hot tub, could chime in as to whether or not their tubs get drained weekly?

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By: JoyinVirginia
2/28/2021 3:26 PM

We have a hot tub. We contract with the person who services our hot tub and he is the one who would determine if there was some reason to completely drain and refill the tub during the season. Usually the tub is not drained, water is added if needed, tub is cleaned (there is a vacuum device that can get sand out very well), chemicals added. We use bromine, works well and is less smelly and not as hard on fabric.

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By: J4yDubs
2/28/2021 3:36 PM


People drain and refill on each turnover, so not a big deal to do it seasonally.

KDHBreeze

Why would they do that? A complete drain and refill is usually reserved for a bad situation that normal cleaning can't handle.

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By: KDHBreeze
2/28/2021 5:05 PM


People drain and refill on each turnover, so not a big deal to do it seasonally.

KDHBreeze

Why would they do that? A complete drain and refill is usually reserved for a bad situation that normal cleaning can't handle.

J4yDubs


Health, safety, and wanting to retain affordable insurance.

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By: Squid Pro Quo
2/28/2021 5:13 PM

Do you drain and refill the pool on turn day as well? Big grin

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By: groovygirl222
2/28/2021 5:23 PM

I don't have a pool in my OBX house, but we have one in our VA house, so basically the same climate. One thing to think about is how expensive it is to heat a pool!! We generally open our pool mid-March and close end of Oct. In March when we turn the heater on for the kids our gas bill can go up by $600-900 a month! So you have to factor that in. sometimes we turn it on to take the chill off and the kids don't care if it's warm out but renters would crank the pool heater I'd imagine!

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