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"OBX Getting Swallowed Up" according to NG

"OBX Getting Swallowed Up" according to NG




"The 200-mile stretch of islands that sits just off the coast is known for its idyllic beaches and thriving tourism, but scientists say those beaches are in jeopardy. Rising sea levels are forcing residents to grapple with a home that's slowly washing out from under them.

One 2010 report predicted that sea levels around North Carolina could rise 39 inches by 2100 as climate change melts glaciers and contributes to global sea level rise. Already, the North Carolina Department of Environmental Quality says, about six feet of costal land erodes every year."

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2018/07/climate-change-outer-banks-environment/


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Getting thick in here

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Ribbon of Sand




A friend of mine sent me a link today that eventually took me to your story, Blue Fish.

The Hatteras Island portion of the Outer Banks does seem to be destined to keep migrating. If you haven't read Ribbon of Sand by John Alexander and James Lazell, I highly recommend it: https://www.uncpress.org/book/9780807848746/ribbon-of-sand/

While searching for that link I came across this PBS program of the same name from 2014 which is available to watch online:https://www.pbs.org/video/ribbon-sand-full-episode/ Haven't watched it yet, but will.


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Ok, thanks for the info. I’ll be dead by then. smiley with shades


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This is the same type report Jimbo Canaloni gave to the residents of Atlantis way back when, or was that Plato?


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You guys made me laugh - in a good way.

I'll be dead, too, but I hope my "heir" will have something to inherit on Roanoke Island. Wink smiley

Here's a kind of cool tool that I am sure a number of us have seen before, but I was reminded of it this morning while reading an article https://ncseagrant.ncsu.edu/program-areas/coastal-hazards/inlet-atlas/ You can scroll around on the map to see other areas, as well.


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At one time there was a pictorial on the Dare City site (I think) that showed the shifting shoreline thruthe years via erosion. I didn’t look for it, and don’t know that it is still on site, but it was interesting.


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Judy, did you try that link I put up a couple of posts up? I'm pretty sure that's similar to what you've described. I know I've seen it before someplace else - perhaps it was where you're referring to.


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Greg MD, I'm not sure what that picture is supposed to prove, except for political snark, but it's not about the number of glaciers. It's about the amount of ice in them. They are melting, that's a fact that can't be argued. Why they are melting, now that one can be debated. The end result is the sea level is rising. The effect of the sea level rise can also be debated, but it is happening and pretending it's not won't solve anything.

Now, for the Outer Banks, and most NC barrier islands, I think the natural migration toward the main land has more to do with the disappearing beaches than the sea level rise. It's just a natural process for that area. They can try to delay it with beach replenishment, but I bet Mother Nature wins this one.

I'm with obxmini. I'm buying soon to be ocean front property in Manteo. Laughing smiley

John


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Judy, did you try that link I put up a couple of posts up? I'm pretty sure that's similar to what you've described. I know I've seen it before someplace else - perhaps it was where you're referring to.

obxmini


I did briefly scan your link. The one to which I refer had a simple beach drawing from

KDH TO Hatteras with different colored lines on it indicating different years, maybe every ten years or so from pretty way back....like the early 1900s, but now I’m guessing.
Will try to find.


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Think this is it, and from the 1800s.
Won’t show on my iPad. But this is correct.

daregis.darenc.com/website/shoreline/viewer.htm


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Ok, thanks for the info. I’ll be dead by then. smiley with shades

JohnMosesBrowning


Guess our home inDuck will be oceanfront. Seriously, climate change is a real challenge. If we want to protect our planet for future generations we really need to implement changes.


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J4ydubs, it is not political snark, it's about scams, flat out lies and intentionally skewed data in order for some to line their own pockets. Who was in line to get rich with the carbon tax, wind farms, solar farms, etc? Send in your money if you think it helps, I'm keeping mine and voting against any tax money wasted on it. I spend an awful lot of time around the water and it ain't overflowing anything stationary yet. Islands move. Sand moves. Water moves too and you expect me to believe that science can accurately measure an inch of change over 140 million square miles of wavy surface area? Lols!


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What is the big deal? Another sea level change? Where is the sea level supposed to be? Who determines that? What next?

CNN Breaking News: "the Appalachian mountains are continuing to wear down at an alarming rate."




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Water moves too and you expect me to believe that science can accurately measure an inch of change over 140 million square miles of wavy surface area? Lols!

Greg MD

Wow. Well, I definitely see the disconnect if you don't think that we can accurately measure the sea level rise and fall. We've been able to do that for some time now and with new satellites it's even more accurate. An inch? Try millimeters. It's rising (globally), of that you can be certain. You can choose to deny that, but it won't make it go away.

As for the rest of your post, I'm going to ignore it since it's not on topic with this thread. You should probably look into the technologies we have now and the measurements we can accurately make. It might open your eyes a little. Science and technology keep on improving, even if you and I don't always understand how it works.

John


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This is the site that I like. The link for Google Chrome works. You can layer on years back to the 1800s to see where the shoreline was for any spot on the Outer Banks. The beach is actually growing in some spots like parts of Waves and Salvo on Hatteras, amongst others. If you believe that the OBX will be gone, then purchase soundfront property on the NC mainland. if you are right, you will have some oceanfront property someday. I'm not buying there though.

www.darenc.com/how-do-i-/search-view-find/shoreline-history


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I don't think it will be gone, but I do think the barrier islands and shorelines move and recede in some places for sure. There's a great deal to learn and as John pointed our science is always changing and the discovery of new means and methods is ongoing.*

Here's a pretty cool video link about using oyster reefs to help stabilize the shoreline along the marshes of Roanoke Island: https://www.coastalreview.org/2018/06/sill-project-underway-in-wanchese/ - if anyone is interested. There are also some great drone shots.

Thanks for the links, Judy and curry. Unfortunately I couldn't make yours open, Judy. Sad smiley

*edited due to my ineptitude at proof reading what I write before I post.


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Well, that's not entirely accurate. Sea levels are still very difficult to get clean data. Bottom line is that sea levels have been rising, but not at an accelerated rate as predicted by climate science. Instead it rises at a constant rate seemingly unaffected by temperature or co2. And levels will continue to rise until the next ice age or mini ice age.

wattsupwiththat.com/2018/05/16/singer-the-sea-is-rising-but-not-because-of-climate-change\


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Sea levels are one thing. But to be honest, we have been trying to hold off the natural progresion of barrier island dynamics ever since we built dunes on them in the 30s. If we are committed to using these islands for a basis of an economy, then let's don't complain too loudly at the cost for doing so.


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I think the professor used a stick in the lagoon to determine that their island was sinking until they figured out that Gilligan was moving it every day. Island


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I think the professor used a stick in the lagoon to determine that their island was sinking until they figured out that Gilligan was moving it every day. Island


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Getting thick in here

Bill


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Getting thick in here

Bill


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That's good to know.



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Well, that's not entirely accurate. Sea levels are still very difficult to get clean data. Bottom line is that sea levels have been rising, but not at an accelerated rate as predicted by climate science. Instead it rises at a constant rate seemingly unaffected by temperature or co2. And levels will continue to rise until the next ice age or mini ice age.

marylander

You linked to an opinion piece by a climate change denier. He also doesn't believe second hand smoke is bad. If you don't mind, I'm going to go with the science community on this one...

At least we're starting to make some process here and no longer denying that sea levels are rising. Science will continue on and will correct itself if needed.

John